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Greetings all, first post. Been reading alot about both units but wanted to know if at 2x the price, would the FEC100 be 2x as good for a home unit as the AmeriQue. Up untill the last week or so, I had my heart set on a Klose but now, not so sure. Decisions, decisions. Help!


Russ
Cooking on a FEC-100
 
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One of the considerations would be that you could compete with an FEC, if you are moved to do so, but cannot with the AQ.


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If I had the money, for a home smoker, I'd go with the FE.

It has a drier environment than the AQ, basically the same controller and more capacity. But the added temp range gives you some higher cooking "if" you need it.

Tough questions, hasn't been asked much.
 
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Another thought could be that with an Amerique,a 10 lb box of wood chunks would last you a couple of years-if storage,etc was a consideration.

Like John says,depends on what you intend to do with it.


Good Q 2 Ya,Tom.
 
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Both good points. How expensive is it to run the FEC as compaired to the AmeriQue? Also, I saw somewhere that the AmeriQue didn't do chicken skin very well. You had to follow up on the grill or oven.


Russ
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I'd probably look at what you wanted to cook,how much of it,and how often.



Now,I have a commercial version of the AQ,and a couple FEC s.

I love both,and if they'd let me take the traditional CS to comps,I'd love to.

As for wood for the AQ,it would cost about the same to cook a couple times a week, for a year ,as one cook in a Klose.

You could cook all night on a couple small fist sized chunks.

Maybe $0.25 at Home Depot,etc.

If you burned one lb pellets/hr and 40 lbs of pellets cost +/- $25,you can figure the math.

If you cook a lot,or divide a pallet with some other cooks,that is about your cost.

If you buy them a 20 lb bag at a time from a bbq store,maybe twice that cost.

As to "better " chicken skin,do you mean fried crispy?

The FEC can accomplish that,if you know what you are doing,pay close attention,and it is real important to you.

Just as a Klose can.

The AQ will produce good "bite through" skin,which is what most comp cooks try for.

I believe you can run it about 300º.

Chicken skin won't start to fry, until something over about 335º.

There is a lot of great comp chicken cooked at 225º-250º.

In any case, many people discard the skin when they eat,anyway.

I guess you need to estimate what percent of your overall cooking is going to hinge on "fried" chicken skin.

Seems like most folks get a smoker to cook low and slow,to break down collagen and render fat.

Yardbirds don't have much of either.

Given a choice of which to use on chicken pieces,for a 25 minute cook,I'd be more likely to fire up a Weber kettle. Big Grin

Now ,if you cook lots of chicken pieces and open the door a lot to mess with them,the FEC has a much faster heat recovery time.

It would also be much faster than a Klose,as well.

Just a couple of thoughts.


Good Q 2 Ya,Tom.
 
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Great info Tom. Thanks. I'm kind of an "Over Kill" kind of guy. Most of the time I over buy, can't ever remember under buying though. Looks like the AQ would do just fine for me. Don't see getting into competion and the most I'd be cooking for would probably run around 25 people at a time. I've got an atic full of pecan wood I split, probably could even use some of that.


Russ
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Originally posted by SmokinOkie:
If I had the money, for a home smoker, I'd go with the FE.

It has a drier environment than the AQ...


Smokin- Does the drier environment of the FEC100 result in Q that is not as moist/tender as what you can achieve from an electric CS?
Don


Cooking on FEC100 & CS55
 
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Surprised no one else asked, figured someone would when I posted that.

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Originally posted by Trucky1008:
Smokin- Does the drier environment of the FEC100 result in Q that is not as moist/tender as what you can achieve from an electric CS?
Don


Nope, there are LOTS of FE owners that win at contests and we're not turning in less moist or less tender.

It's just "different"

I get almost the same effect by opening the door on my CS's and reducing the humidity. Adds time to the cook.

BUT...

The CS are designed that way on purpose. There is a reason they work so well for people, and at lot of it's the humidity.

To get my bark closer to my FE's I just open the door.

Just a different method
 
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Hey Smokin, going to pull the trigger today on a FEC100. I just got through reading your ribs 101. Would this hold good for the FEC? Would ribs be a good first attempt or would you recommend something else? Real important to impress the "Misses" after all this money. Think, "Shock and Awe".


Russ
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Since Smokin' hasn't had time to stop by yet,I'll give a quick thought.

IMO, as to moistness and tenderness, not on most items.

Now,if you are cooking 30 slabs of ribs,you might have to open the door on the traditional Cookshacks more often ,to dump a little moisture.

The FEC flows more air,and COULD cook at higher temps.


Good Q 2 Ya,Tom.
 
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Originally posted by Tom:

Now,if you are cooking 30 slabs of ribs,you might have to open the door on the traditional Cookshacks more often ,to dump a little moisture.

Tom,

Thanks for all the great information! I should point out, though that Cookshack smokers that are large enough to hold 30 slabs of ribs have a cabinet size that does not require opening the door to remove humidity. Now, if you stuff 30 slabs of ribs into and A/Q, you will have a real mess on your hands!


Donna
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I appreciate the feedback.

I'll be smoking 9 BB slabs in my 55 tomorrow, should I be concerned about too much humidity building up in the cabinet? The most I've ever done before has been 4 or 5 slabs. I'd hate to open the door to vent out humidity if it's not necessary for this amount of meat. Thanks
Don


Cooking on FEC100 & CS55
 
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I would not be concerned. Crank it up to 250*(if it will get that hot) and let 'er rip for 4 hours, then check. It will vent then.

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Originally posted by Trucky1008:
I'll be smoking 9 BB slabs in my 55 tomorrow, should I be concerned about too much humidity building up in the cabinet? Don


Question would be, do you like the ribs that come out now? If so, don't change anything but check them at 2 hours and I'd move them around a little. 9 is a lot.
 
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