Just a quick update. People at CS are listening. And quitting is no way to affect change. Helpful suggestions are a way to affect change. But that does not mean that owners of a particular business will change. This forum is not getting the hits that it used to get. A lot of the old timers retired or died off. A new format may or may not improve business. Another forum, SmokinTex is nowhere as busy as it was years ago. People and times change. Just a fact of life.