nope i am something much worse than that. i left the engineering end of things at age 41 and went to culinary school and became a chef (hey i even got lucky and passed my american culinary federation written exam). i then trained under a an old school german chef who still had scars from where is sous chef hit him with a saute pan back in the days from where that was considered good and acceptable behavior. add to that my own scottish, german and american indian lineage and man what a hardheaded mess

but i love studly's problem. it is a tough one to solve but like everything else there has to be a solution, it's out there, and one day i think there will be several lightbulbs going off together going a ha that's it!!!!
should be fun to watch and explains why i love this forum---people trying to find the most elegant solution to a problem.
jack