Tom,didn't mean anything but help for the greenbergm that's all. I just heve used this method for 17yrs and it works every time no matter the size of the cut, with out fail. I am going to try it in my new sm009 that I just got yesterday. I don't know if it will work on this kind of smoker or not.I got that recipe from a small cook book that came with my okla. Joe's 16"traditon that I bought as my first smoker back in 91.I cook for 3hrs at 250 with pecan just on the rack then put it a alum. throw away pan with all the fluid and seal it tight for another 3hrs........man is it ever gooooooooood!! Thanks for all the input from all of you and I am really lookin fwd to quein with my new toy!!! Frenchbone.Ready to rib down!!!!!!