Bobby Que, with the same respect due, I never said my butts are better than yours, sir. I said I like to melt more fat and collagen, and that I keep what fat and collagen I end up with in the finished product. Mine come out looking like a meteorite and with all that yummy goodness sealed inside! Not overcooked, moist and yummy! Betcha there are as many ways to make pulled pork as there are active forum members!