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i have just completed an experiment that just knocked my socks off. i never in my wildest dreams figured that boneless butts, at 30cent more per pound, would be more cost effective than bone in, but thats the fact. i finally sprang for the top line meat, and actually saved money.
normally, on the bone-in butt, yeild is about 50 percent, and the work involved is a ton. first, i usually cut away a bunch of junk, that i compare to de-gutting a fish before cooking. that little split area above the bone usually has a pink colored chunk of meat that taste terrible! plus some other stuff in that region that sure aint edible. got to remove before cooking, so it dont taint the meat around it. so, by the time i have done all that, and the clock ticks by, its taken me 30-45 minutes to open, clean, prep, rub, and place in smoker, one case of bone-in, which will yeild about 50 percent.
now, i got a case of boneless butts(first time)...
opened, washed, checked over and removed only about a half pound of junk from the entire case, versus 2 pounds from the bone-in case. rubbed and smoked. done. oh yea, and they cooked a whole lot faster. i mean, like 2 hours faster, and were very tender and better flavor, and less work. but the best part.....my yeild was 80 percent!!!!!!!!
so....... how about anyone else....whats you take on the boneless? the only bad thing is that i will have to come up with another way of treating the dogs that come with their owners for a meal. we usually give a bone and bowl of water to the family pet. some dogs get so excited, you can hear them barking a block away! heehee.
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Originally posted by coffeebluffbbq/savannah:
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that little split area above the bone usually has a pink colored chunk of meat that taste terrible! plus some other stuff in that region that sure aint edible. got to remove before cooking, so it dont taint the meat around it.

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?? what is this gland? I've been cooking bone-in butts for years and I don't recall a gland that taste bad. Can you elaborate on this or point me to a picture of this thing?

The split where the muscles overlap has a very gristly connective tissue. Is that what you're refering to?

I'm always looking for ways to improve on the product.

Thanks!
We haven't used bone in shoulders for years. I figure let the butcher do the work.

We smoke whole, boneless, un-netted 12-14#. Our freezer runs at -25F so thats what we put them on at. Otherwise thawing takes a week.

We haven't done whole hog BBQ lately either, for the same reason, too much work and mess.

If we do a rub we take them off after an hour on smoke cycle and rub.

80% yield is incredible.

Our BBQ hogs yield poorly and I'm proud of it. Our Duroc/Berkshire cross went at 66%; now our purebred Berkshire boneless is only yielding 50%. Perfect!

We keep the fat rascals for our meat and BBQ business [flavor], and sell the the lean ones to John Morrell [lean pemium $].

Good Luck! Roger
my pit usually stays around 250-275, although it takes half a day to get there. it can soar to 300 some days, but i dont let it stay there. i pulled the butts at 160(sat there for a while), wrapped(with some coca cola), then they shot up to 170 real fast.
pulled out and let them rest for two hours, then chilled overnight.
i will try to remember to take pics of new batch today. plus pic of gland, as today i am using bone-in.
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Originally posted by SmokinOkie:
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Next time I see it, I'll take a digital picture. Or anyone else who has a shot, send it to me and I'll post.

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Thanks Russ! I'd really appreciate seeing what it actually looks like. I buy most of my butts from Sam's, and occasionally a Farmland Fresh from Kroger and I don't remember seeing this gland before. That or I didn't know what I was looking at.
well, the 80 percent yeild was a fluke. only happened once. the rest of the boneless cases were back down to 55-60 percent. however, the cook time is so much shorter, that more than makes up for the extra dough.
eventually, smokinokie is gonna post them pics i sent him......some of the gland, some of the finished product..
The last case of bone-in butts we purchased had a little mistake in there. One of the cryovacs contained 2 boneless. Merry Christmas! We were so surprised at how well they tasted. All the talk about needing the bone to make meat taste good might not be true at all. They cooked easier for Jack and pulled real well. We didn't really read the package it was in, so I don't know if it was labeled "boneless". We were just thinking it was bone-in. We didn't discover the difference until Jack was pulling and found no bones! A lesson was learned though. We will read the package from now on. If they can give you a good thing by mistake they can also give you something worse. Fortunately, this one worked in our favor.
Peggy
Red Horse,
I always was told the meat was sweeter next to the bone, but in this case it wasn't true. The boneless tasted just as good. However, I do like picnics better for pulled pork. I think that skin covering adds a lot of flavor and yes, fat. It also has a lot of bone, so maybe that saying is true. I know I like the little bundle of meat right next to the amaller bone in the picnic. I guess it would be similar to our ulna.
Peggy
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eventually, smokinokie is gonna post them pics i sent him......some of the gland, some of the finished product.. [/qb]
I've been having trouble getting my program set up to transfer the pics, but I think everything is about worked out.

Soon...
I do both actually. When I want to slice them I have a tendancy to tie them with butchers string.

When I want a lot of bark (the Mrs. likes a lot of bark in her bite) I just let them lay butterflied out essentially. More surface area for bark to get on.

The other folks may have different approaches but as Tom says that is my 0.02.

Regards,
Preston
i just let em fly. my smoker wont bark em unless i put em righ on the center of the coals. last friday, we had an emergency, and had to leave early. well, i had ten butts in the smoker, a few hours away from done. i pulled em and wrapped em up. 4 days later, we returned, and i had to finish them off, somehow. thank goodness, they were still good, not foul. so i got this idea...
i sliced them into thick steaks, and smoked them til done, about an hour and a half. taste like really smokey pork shops. hhmmmmm
I've done a bone-in butt but not one without. It sounds easier and I can get my butcher to debone one for me. Several comments say it takes less time to cook. I know that "it's done when it's done", but can somebody suggest a rough time per pound for boneless vs. bone-in.

Thanks,

Fred
Well,I'm no pro-but I stay at Holiday Inns, along with some.

We do cook a lot of pork and one team member does caters in the several hundreds of plates.

All the posts above,have good comments about why they approach some things the way they do.

IMO there isn't anything easier to do in a small cookshack than cook a 15 lb 2 pack of non-injected ,bone in butts.

Coat them heavily with a mixture of your favorite seasoning and brown sugar,and do nothing else.

Let set in the refrigerator,while you are readying the cooker. Set one on each of the top couple racks.

Stick a temp probe in the smaller one.

Set cooker between 225�-250�,close door and don't open until it reads 195� internal.

Open door and see if the bone is loose,take out, foil, and let set an hour.

Open the foil on a work surface,break the butt into its few component pieces,toss the good hunks into your work bowl,discard the junk in the foil.

Break apart with forks,or hands,add a little rub to taste.

Eat,with a little sauce on the side,if desired.

This is 95% of the process.

The rest is tweaks for a specific need.

Just my $0.02 on what should really be a simple process. Smiler

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