Commercial Kitchen

murph,

wow! that is one big undertaking. the first thing i would make sure of is....is there a solid market for that kind of operation? because you are going to fork up some cash. i have priced a commercial kitchen for a Q joint that i'm going to do in a couple of years [i hope]. its going to run me about $50k, and i have several pieces of equipment ie. FEC500, fryer, charbroiler, holding oven, steamtable etc. and that $50k is just for the kitchen.................good luck!

jeff heaton, "The Smoque Shack BBQ"

If I'm reading correctly, you want to create a commercial kitchen with the intention of renting it out?

Even a moderate facility, renovated or built new will cost you a bundle by the time you build and equip it. What revenue streams do you envision when it's not being rented?

Assuming you could build & equip for $250,000 (VERY optimistic IMHO) your loan P&I would be $2,040/month assuming 5.5% interest on a 15 yr loan.
Now begin adding in utilities, repairs, insurance, etc.

It's a great idea Murph and I'm not trying to shoot you down...but I'm having difficulty wrapping my head around your return on investment.

The other potential boondoggle you might encounter is liability insurance...someone rents your facility and slices off the end of his thumb. How would that be treated by your insurance provider or workmans comp?

I'm more than happy to work with you on the actual facility planning but wanted to throw these ideas out as a starting point.

There is a place in the Dallas area like what you describe. Google Hour Kitchen Garland to take a look and see if this is a similar concept.

This doesn't exactly answer the question that you asked but it gives you a point of comparison.

Murph,

Besides the normal stuff you may want to include a vacuum sealer, not the home type but a commercial chamber style. That would allow your prospective clients to make larger quantities,vac seal then feeze.

Thanks for the replies. Sorry for the delay, I was out all day yesterday and am just now getting back to the forum. dubblin551, what size (sq ft) were you thinking about? MaxQ, your point are very valid and need to be looked into a lot closer. I am still in the conceptual stage and this helps a lot. I am hoping for a lot of hourly rentals and thought about some sort of donut friers and pastry equipment. I know a few wanna be pastry chefs looking for a place to bake and a personal chef or two looking to expand but not enough room too. Would also hope for some caterers and would look for some unorthodox ideas. I have seen recently where some people are wanting to cater their own weeding or anniversaries. And who hasn't thought about their own line of signature sausages . I would need an iron clad release with the contract for sure. txsmoker and porkfatrules thanks for the link and suggestion of vac sealing.

murph,

sounds like you got some good responses. what i was looking at for me? a building 40'x80'. the kitchen would be 40'x20' with the following equipment.....6 burner stove w/ovens, 2 fryers, charbroiler, steam table, frig prep table, walk in [10'x10'], FEC 500, holding oven, prep tables, beer cooler, keg cooler, frozen margarita machine, freezers[2], dishwasher, ice machine, shelving etc.....
there are web sites that have slightly used equipment that can save one 40-60% off new prices. these sites will save me thousands!
i dont know where you are at, but please make sure you have a solid plan to generate enough income to make this endevor worth your while........any oyher questions? i would be glad to help.........good juck....

jeff heaton "The Smoque Shach BBQ"

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Originally posted by dublin551:
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there are web sites that have slightly used equipment that can save one 40-60% off new prices. these sites will save me thousands!


jeff heaton "The Smoque Shach BBQ"

Can you list them? I'm looking for a commercial ice machine for the house, but it's 2 Grand. I like ice, but not that much.. LOL

dubblin551,
Thanks for the response. Your set up sounds like what I am thinking minus the beer and keg coolers and margarita machine. I will start looking for pricing on machinery next week and hopefully looking at some existing locations within the next month. I am in Columbia, South Carolina. Its not the largest city in the world but I think it could support my idea. I guess it is like anything else, the more you put into it the more you get out of it. I would think that advertising through print and social media would go along way towards gaining clients. Thanks for the help!

Smokin, have a look at THIS

Mrs. Max is my pastry chef at the restaurant and uses this machine once-twice @ week to churn up a "homemade" flavor in addition to the Ben & Jerry's chocolate and vanilla we offer. We replace the motor about every other year but it does a pretty darned good job.

smokinokie,

here are 3 sites that im looking at.
equipmentengine.com acitydiscount.com and basequipment.com the last one has an ice-o-matic 174# air cooled, 73# bin for $1589....and another for $1490. one of these sites you can make an offer on the equipment....and one has free shiping on the bigger items....hope this helps......

jeff,

Max,

I said ICE, not Ice Cream... ROTFL.

Family is wanting on like Sonic that makes the chewable ice.

No worries, won't be till next year...

Don't want to threadjack, so back to the original thread.

THANKS Jeff for the links!!!

you are welcome sir......they have flakers too.