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A new member to the forum emailed me to ask what kind of turkey I'd buy and how would I cook it.

I could say read the search,but that just turned up about 140 threads.

Realizing that Smokin' has 1 or 2 other things on his plate and Turkey 101 is still in the works,I'll give a couple of vague answers and let the esteemed membership add their own successful techniques.

The new Cook's magazine picked a frozen,regional store brand @ $0.79/lb. as the best overall bet.They have also picked Empire kosher in their taste tests in the past.Empire has been good to me for whole birds and breasts.

I like unbrined and then use a brine, like Smokin' has on here ,for about 24 hrs. on up to a 15-20 lb. bird.

I've bought Butterball,on sale, a few times and they seem fine to me. I've bought store brands and they worked fine.Anything that is already shot up with 10%-15% solution,I like to inject for some flavor.

I find that brined will cook to a higher temperature without drying and cooks in less time.

I like about a 20 lb. bird that I section into whole breast,leg quarters,and wings for cooking.I use the back and trimmings for stock.

I also like to cook brined breasts to give as gifts, or just to have around the house for many uses.I brine them around 12 hrs.

When I brine,I rinse very well and go easy on the salt in my rubs.
We aren't great skin eaters,so I often skin the breasts,rub with a couple Tbsp. of rub in a cup of mayo.

I like to soak food grade cheesecloth in vinegar and wrap the breasts a couple of times to avoid any blackening.

When cooking sections,I pull the breasts at 160� wrap in plastic and foil and dry cooler awhile.I leave the wings and dark meat in till at least 178� and then plastic and foil and cooler.

Whole birds,I stay down around 15-16 lbs. and cook to around 175�+ in the thickest part of the thigh.The brining will allow the breast to stay moist at a higher temp.

I like apple and a little hickory,around 240� cooker temperature.

Hope this helps some, until the serious turkey cooks chime in. Big Grin
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Mornin',Ricky.

I agree about them hogs.

If you're fortunate enough to live up north with snow for the holidays,it is easier to find space.

A turkey in a 5 gal bucket full of brine can sure tie up a bunch of her refrigerator,around the big day when she is tryin' to do sides and pies.

An approach I use,if I don't just inject the brine,is to place the bird in a food service quality plastic bag with the chilled brine.

Seal well and place in a cooler ,large enough to pack with bagged ice.

Set it out of the way and check your ice occasionally.I've found that it stays colder than opening the refrigerator door constantly ,with lots of folks around the house.Especially down here at the beach.

She never knows it is there ,and still plenty of room in the refrig for chilled beverages. Big Grin
Tom,

Great post, thanks. Just a "little" hectic. I think we even talked Turkey 101 last year, and the year before... Frowner

Great idea about the "food serivce quality plastic bag" what does that mean?

Just kiddin'

Yes, a common question is how to brine a turkey and that's the normal solution I seen recommended. It's remarkable what those coolers can do when you think about them. I've got one of the medium sized one's that just slightly bigger than a turkey so when I bag it, it doesn't take a lot of ice.

The key, Ricky, if you use this method is to keep it cold, below 40.

And you've done chicken, so you know the process speeds up a little.

Good luck on the turkey.


Did a quick search and pulled out a couple that might help anyone "lurking" and thinking about Turkey.


Smokin'


Smokin' Okies Holiday Brine

Turkey Photos

Turkey done much too soon

Turkey in a Cheese Cloth

Boneless Turkey Breast

Correct Turkey Time/temps
Just a note on the plastic bag.I got that tip from Robert Worley of Buttrub.com.

They are a translucent white plastic.Our Sam's quit carrying them,but I'd guess the other box stores have them.

They wrap all their pork,poultry,and beef that must go back in the coolers.

Also easier than using the 18 " plastic wrap at times.
Okay, Tom, now I'm ashamed....I haven't built that Turkey 101.

So now I'm researching....

...low and behold look at the first entry I find from an Extension Center of all places:

scroll down to Smoked Turkey:

MS State Extension Service

Now someone tell me if I'm wrong, but they're saying to:

quote:
Place drained turkeys in a smoker heated with charcoal, at 100 degrees F. for 12 hours.


But if you'll look at the brine they suggest, there is no salt peter or any cure. Guess they think they're cold smoking, but I'm sure they left an ingredient out.

and does anyone want to shout "Danger Zone, Danger Zone."

This is exactly the kind of information that can hurt you. Without a cure of some sort, you're sitting inside the danger zone for 12 hours and THEN they only suggest taking it to 170, so the dark meat will never reach above that...

Sad....so sad.

Do NOT try this at home.

Smokin'
Howdy ,Ricky.

I sometimes inject the night before and then hit it again, before I put it on the cooker.

The heavy brine injection, the night before,usually does the job.I just dry it well.Sometimes I leave it uncovered in the refrigerator to dry the skin,if I am trying to present it with skin on.

If I don't brine,I usually use a Cajun butter injection for flavor-the CS usually handles the moistness.
Hey,Ricky.

Before I knew there were food prep bags,I always used unscented kitchen trash bags .I figure you are rinsing very well and the plastics haven't gotten any of us yet.Buy a good grade and tie a knot in the top.

Chris A on his WSM Virtual Bullet site says turkey cooking bags are good and durable,although a mite pricey for us po' folks.

I have done suckling pigs,mutton,lamb,beef,poultry,pig and game without noticing any difference.

I have had three engineers wanting methods for this week and none of them seemed concerned with plain plastic bags.

Hope this helps a little.
Here's a simple turkey recipe I used to do in my ECB before I stepped up to Cookshackhood. It uses a dry cure instead of a brine, but turns out a delicious bird. The fennel - salt - hot pepper mixture is great on chicken, too. I rub it liberally (or conservatively, depending on your politics) all over (the chicken) and roast for an hour at 425 degrees - paper thin crispy skin and juicy meat...but I digress. On to the Turkey -

Smoked Turkey


1 8-10 lb fresh turkey
1 cup kosher salt
1/2 cup brown sugar
1-2 tbs red pepper flakes
6 cloves garlic,
crushed slightly with flat of knife
1 tbs fennel seed
3 tbs kosher salt
1-2 tsp red pepper flakes

Wash turkey and pat dry. Mix kosher salt, brown sugar and hot pepper flakes, and coat the bird inside and out generously with the mixture. Place the bird in a plastic bag and refrigerate for 12-24 hours.

Wash the turkey thoroughly to remove all of the curing mixture. Dry the bird completely with paper towels and set to dry on a rack in a well-ventilated area until the skin is glossy (about four hours). You can place the bird in front of a fan to hasten the process, but it will still take about 2 hours.

When the skin of the bird is glossy rub it all over with the garlic. Crush the fennel seed in a mortar, add the salt and red pepper flakes, and coat the bird with this mixture.

Put the wood of your choice (I like one chunk each of hickory and cherry) in the smoker box and place the turkey in the smoker (on the highest rack that will fit). Smoke at 225 until temp measures 170 at the thigh.

Variation: instead of using a whole turkey, cut it into serving pieces, and proceed with the recipe. When the turkey is placed on the smoker, hold the breasts back and add them for the last 2-3 hours of cooking (pull at 160).
I have never brined a turkey before but I will have to try it since everyone else seems to do it.

I usually just seasoned inside and out with some of my favorite spices and threw in a couple of crushed cloves of garlic and some peices of carrot celery and apple.

Before I got my smokette I used the ecb with good results and I never did anything by themometer until I started to read this forum. the people and info here are exceptional, it is much easier to do something when you have access to people with years of experience.

Dave
Ya know, bein' an ol' country boy,some a this new fangled tek-ni-que really gets me bufduddeled.


Lord knows,I might even a started this thread.

My bride is one a them mathamacounter people that can read books an' figer[sic] formlas.

Ya know she measures stuff,and it even works- for her.

She can bake,confection,pastry and all that hifaluten stuff.

'course she's less likely to be influenced by adult beverages an' BS than some o' us.

We got one a 'em there house cookers that can fly an arplane, and it looks rite good when them darn kinfolks come a callin'.

Sucker cost more'n a double wide an' a bass boat.

They always want thar pitcher took with that indoor cooker.

Man ya shouda seen 'em when they hit that indoor toilet.

Big Grin
This next part comes from the "most prolific experimenter" and is known to mess up
simple and good by movin' past excellent.

The point is, to sum up this ramble,when we go back to a very simple technique the CS will produce an excellent turkey- without us trying to overthink it.

IMHO try the simple basic technique,without all the tricks,and you and your Cookshack will produce the best turkey you have served your honored guests.
quote:
Lord knows,I might even a started this thread. We got one a 'em there house cookers that can fly an arplane, and it looks rite good when them darn kinfolks come a callin'.

Sucker cost more'n a double wide an' a bass boat.
They always want thar pitcher took with that indoor cooker.
Man ya shouda seen 'em when they hit that indoor toilet. Big Grin

This next part comes from the "most prolific experimenter" and is known to mess up simple and good by movin' past excellent. The point is, to sum up this ramble,when we go back to a very simple technique the CS will produce an excellent turkey- without us trying to overthink it.

IMHO try the simple basic technique,without all the tricks,and you and your Cookshack will produce the best turkey you have served your honored guests.


I was looking for turkey info and stumbled upon this. I just wondered how that indoor toilet was working out for you. I was thinking about going with one of those before winter hit hard, but didn't want to waste my time if it's some kind of fad. I like proven technology.
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