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Let me prepuce this by saying after exhaustive research the product and crew at cookshack stand a head and shoulders above the competition. And later in this post I will mention the secondary market of which there is virtually none. Why? Well because their product is so good no one parts with it. This is the very best testament anyone can have for their product. Now for the grumbling part.

I have been languishing over buying a smoker for sometime now. I started out with a budget of about $200 - $250 for the purchase, but have since come to the conclusion, after investigation, that the tin toys you get for that kind of money would be more nuisance than smoker. This was the result mainly of stumbling into this website and others. Hence I convinced myself to pony up the extra $300 (not the easiest conclusion to draw with the current economic climate) and buy an appliance rather than a toy. But in the mean time along came the Smokette model changes and price raise. The price raise for more width and better controls, money well spent, considering the differences. And to be honest these changes are attractive enough I don’t particularly want the old style any longer. But the loss of approximately 100 square inches of rack space, 4” of hanging space, (hence rib hooks won’t work) and about 500 cubic inches of overall space has left me back to square one. With careful analysis of the situation one can understand the business thinking that went in the decision making process. Standard rack size and many other parts, as well as a size that virtually overlaps with other models makes cutting down one shelf and going with the standard foot print size a no brainer. And the new units are better for consumers, except for the loss of cooking space. However to me the space loss seems critical. So that leaves choices. Paying close to five times my original budget in order to buy the Super Smoker and get the space back, which sure seems out of the question. This appears to be $450 for the same controls and heating elements, just 4” more box, an extra door latch and one shelf. You can come, amazingly close to buying 2 Smokettes for the price of one Super Smoker. But maybe my ignorance is showing here? There are still the “Toys” (not a chance after becoming educated). Then there is the secondary market or clones which maybe the best of the bad choices left, if I don’t just give up the space.

After writing this and reading it from an outside looking in perspective maybe I am just whining because I am wanting, something for nothing. But it sure seems that they could have left the height in play and raised the prices just a bit more on these two models. I am certain there are likely some potential Super Smoker customers that feel the same way. But at any rate someone please convince me that the space loss is no big deal. Feel free to be critical if I have been out of line here. As of right now I am about to give up on the entire project as it was just for fun and the costs seem to be getting out of control.
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Yes they are expensive. If CS didn't have a $500 model ($525 now) when I ordered mine, there's no doubt I would not have been tempted to buy. ($500 was the FAR end of my budget)

1) Best 500 bucks I've spent in a long time
2) I don't NEED any more room than my sm020. That said, I would not hesitate to recommend spending the extra bucks to get more room if you need it. It is worth it if you need it!!

CS makes a great product. I am a mediocre grill chef and I just made the best smoked ribs I've ever had.. ever. It's easy because of the CS smoker design and performance. So... quit your whining(they make em' so they get to price 'em) and order one already... lol
I too was a little put off by the price but I went ahead and went for the 020. Since I got it about a month ago I've smoked everything I can think of and it all came out tasting the best! Today I just finished smoking some salmon when the neighbors stopped by. I asked the husband if he wanted to try some and he ate half a filet in about a minute! Said it was the best he'd ever had(I used the recipe in the recipe forum for seafood posted by gpalma on March 12, 2007. Thank you, gpalma!) and asked if I would smoke some for him if he provided the fish. After my wife had some she went to the store and bought 4 more filets for me to do tomorrow.
As I write this (10:00pm CST) I've got a 6 lb. prime rib in the 020 that's coming out in an hour or so. Tomorrow I'm doing four 1/2 chickens(plus the salmon for the wife). Bottom line...buy the smoker and have a blast. The feedback you'll get from friends and family is worth the price. Go for it.
I went thru the same dilemma and wound up buying the new 025--I love it.
Not sure how you're calculating the space loss--the smallest smokettes actually gained interior space with the redesign---the actual "box" (and shelf) size is 4" wider and the same height and depth in the new 020/025 versus the old discontinued 008/009. The new 020/025s did lose one shelf but the new units are now wide enough to put two whole slabs of ribs laying flat on each shelf.
The temp on my unit never seems to vary more than 5 degrees from the set temp--probably due to the electronic controls and larger heating element (750 watts vs 500) Based on some of the posts on here, the older units may vary much more than that.
I debated on paying more for one of the larger units but now that I have the 025, I think it'll do almost everything I need---and if I ever decide to get a bigger one, I can sell my old one easily because of the quality and reputation.
Whichever size you go with, you won't be disappointed. Good luck in your decision.
Had to laugh at your post Redoak figured someone would go ahead and nail me for whining. I knew I had it coming. Thank for all the positive reinforcement. I was certainly not complaining about paying a good price for a fine product made in the USA, just about the space loss and not wanting to upgrade model choice to get it back (3-14” sq. racks are a bit smaller than 2-14x18s). I am checking on the turkey forum to see how big a bird a Smokette will hold, that might be the final nail in the coffin of whining about nothing. Anyway it has all been good advice and I will likely buy a SM020 soon.

P.S. JetBoater we have a few of your fellow jet boat drivers in these parts. I live at the gateway to Hell’s Canyon.
Hey Mickey_zee--

Went through the same thing except my problem was the Smokette couldn't handle a full slab of ribs, and bingo, when I went to order Cookshack came out with the Elite. I only buy quality, that's why I went with the Cookshack. Well not always, both my water smoker lasted a few years.

All I can tell you, this has been one of the most fun purchases I have ever made. I want to use it all the time. I'm on this forum constantly looking for ideas. As a matter of fact, I'm on here checking just to make sure I don't miss anything.

I've done pork butt, baby backs, moinks, pork loin, and tri tip. All have turned out delicious, tender, and moist. So easy to do. I've got "eye of round" curing right now, and they're going on shortly for jerky.

My God, if you're this thorough with the purchase, I can't wait for your cooking posts once you buy one. Big Grin

Pags
Hi mickey_zee43

I had an SM008 and upgraded to the SM020. Currently it is just my wife and I enjoying the benefits of the smoker and it is plenty big for us. We have done two turkeys in the SM008 at different times. the fist one was 12 lbs (our turkey test) and the second one was 11 lbs (Thanksgiving turkey). We invited my wife's parents for the Thanksgiving turkey and they loved it. As you will find out the 008 isn't hot enough to crisp the skin. We haven't had the chance to try a turkey in the 020 to see if the 300 temp will be enough to crisp the skin. Also as jetboater mentioned the temp fluctuation on the new models are less extreme. In my old 008 I saw fluctuations of roughly 20 degrees where the 020 is spot on with fluctuations of less than 5 degrees. Hope this helps.

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