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I tried to visit as many BBQ joints around my area (southwest connecticut) to survey "my neck of the woods". While a number served ribs, only a few (about 4) I've visited claimed they were real pit BBQ outfits. I was able to talk to either the owners or the main cooks. All were very nice people and were curious to know what I thought of their product (ribs and pulled pork). 3 places even allowed me to view their kitchen and operations.

Aside from getting opinions from other business owners about the area, I had also wanted to evaluate their cookers. I was more interested on the appearance (presentation) of the cooked ribs and the texture rather than the actual taste. (TASTE IS VERY SUBJECTIVE.) One had a Ole Hickory (gas), the other had a Southern Pride (gas), the last one had 2 Cookshacks (100 and 200 series). For ribs, all of them used 3 and down St Louis cut. The SP and CS sites cooked their ribs for at least 4 hours, while the OleHickory joint less than that. The cooking results on the ribs were very interesting.

The CS cooked ribs were very moist and juicy but had no "bark" to speak of. Meat was still white although smokey in flavor. The OleHickory cooked ribs were "hard", dry, and the meat sticking to the bone. I think the joint simple did not cook it long enough. The SP cooked ribs had a bark, smoke ring, a moist center, and the meat cooked enough to pull off easily from the bone. It however would do better with a little more moisture.

This brings me to my real question - to those of you who are using the CS commercially to cook ribs (not a pulled-pork question please), what do you do to put some crisp or bark to improve texture? The CS cooked ribs I tried were a bit too mushy (looks more like the result of "steaming" rather than roasting) for me (and this was not over sauced). Do you use a Charbroiler to finish off your ribs?

Surely, I'll need a commercial cooker for my business. But at this point, none of the product of the 3 I have tested (apperance and texture) even comes close to the ribs I do at home with my WSM (Weber Smokey Mountain a $179 bargain for HOME use). Are gas and electric bbq cookers a simple commercial convenience but produce an inferior RIB product to wood or charcoal pits? Do I have to make this big compromise for operations sake? I am beginning to doubt the quality this "push the button and forget it" cooker. What happened to the pit masters of the deep south who mop em slabs every hour or so?

Please understand where I am coming from. I want to create a real good commercial product and not just any kind of ribs. I do not assume my future customers will be happy to eat any kind of ribs just because they see the sign BBQ or smell the smoke. I'd like them to come back again and again. Thanks for your comments.
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hi tony. first of all, i commend you to take the time to investigate surrounding joints for comparisons. well, heres my nickel....
i dont think the smoker makes that much difference. one just simple adjust their technique to fit the unit they are using to achieve the desired outcome. people like ribs alot of different ways, so its hard to know what your customers will be searching for til they are at your counter. as for me, i like 'em with a little bark and texture. however, my customers require, almost demand, that they can eat 'em with a straw.
so, i provide what the masses tell me they want. after all, its their money keeping me in business. you will find the same is true for you. just listen to what they want and give it to them and you will be fine. hope this helps...
oh yea, for anyone who wants to add bark to them ribs, here is a real quick answer..
after you have smoked you slab and you want to add bark, just rub on a little honey or brown sugar. get a can of spray release and a lighter. light the lighter and spray accross the flame, aiming at the slab. this only takes a few seconds. we use to do this for blackened steaks. it really works!
ahh, to clarify... a butane torch would work fine if you have one. but if not, a can of flamable spray like pam( but not pam, as it is not flamable). i use kroger brand grill spray. it is designed for spraying your grill before you cook to keep foods from sticking. personally, i use it to quick light my wood so i dont have to wait an hour for smoke. off the topic, i like to get the smoke bellowing fast, so i can kinda cold smoke for an hour before my big smoker gets up to temp. Smiler
First about bark. Bark is a combination of whatever rub, how much heat, how long and how much humidity. You can make any smoker work to your desired effect if you decide which of those is your issue and resolve it. I know a lot of offsets that have a great product, but they're dry because they never added moisutre or something like a mop to keep them from drying out. There are a bunch of techniques so maybe we'll hear from some of the commercial cooks soon.

About the make shift torch:
Okay, I'm going to have to jump in and say NEVER use a can of spray liquid like this, you can get one of those butane torches for very little and I've certainly heard of an accident or two from using spray cans like this.

No disrespect CB, but better safe than sorry, we want you around the forum for a long time.

The way I know restaurant people have done is to just crisp them up on a grill, I think Famous Dave's does them that way.

And of course... It's safer...
cook17,

For most restaurants it depends on the time of day. During their busy times they typically keep some ribs warm and then put them on the grill and sauce them.

St. Louis Style and slab ribs are harder to get warm all the way through on the grill than baby backs. Restaurants like Chili's and Fridays that serve baby backs warm them completely on the grill.
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Originally posted by Happy Trails:
[qb]coffeebluffbbq/savannah,

Are you simply referring to canned air, when you suggest using "can of spray release"? If so, what advantage does that have over the butane torch used by chefs to carmelize sugar on various desserts?

Happy Trails[/qb]


SmokinOkie is right on, igniting flamable aeresol cans or liquid sprays is asking for trouble.

At the restaurant, we use a standard butane torch with a trigger igniter to finish Creme Brulee' You can find the smaller torches at http://kitchen.mainseek.com/281R2P683_Baking-Tools_Bonjour-Cooking-Torch.html
hey tony... how are you doing? Been traveling to New Haven from Westchester for a client... we should get together...

I'm thinking that CS ribs, cooked then held warm (foil wrapped), could be "barked up" with about 2 minutes on a medium grill... have you tried that? It should still keep em moist, tender, but with a little crisp.

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