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I am >90% sure I am going to buy an electric smoker, and am doing some last sanity checks before ordering. In my homework so far I have learned of the quality and reputation of cookshack and will get one of those if I take the plunge. I am from the Pacific Northwest, and while we all have smoked food on occasion anywhere in the country, smoking does not seem to be that big among the general populace. But last Thanksgiving my wife heard at work of a local BBQ restaurant that would smoke your turkey for about $25, and we tried it. It was incredibly tasty.... and I keep hearing the same thing on these forums.

While the AmeriQue tempts me, right now I cannot swing that, especially since my wife reminds me I get into things that seem like a great idea but don't find time. (If I do end up doing it regularly, I can see getting an AmeriQue in a few years, having two would not kill us I think.) I do not really know how to cook, but for great-tasting meat I can do the small steps that smoking seems to entail. So here are my questions...

Winter: How cold can it be outside and reasonably smoke with these things? I would hope at least we could smoke for Thanksgiving (Eastern Washington: low 20-30 high 30-50 typically). I am sure that if its colder, it has to smoke longer (and/or the max you can achieve is lower), but presumably at some point it gets impractical for any of a number of reasons. Also, is there any reason most/all of the supplies one would normally keep in a storage cart underneath shouldn't freeze over the winter? I will be keeping it underneath a roof eave (and so the house protects it from the prevailing winds and thus almost all sideways rain/snow) and almost certainly get a cover for it, in case that matters. Could one somehow add to the insulation (I know you can't really tape on asbestos in this day and age, but maybe some kludge could help in cold weather)?

Turkey: how big of a turkey can you smoke in the 14x14 racks (yes, I know the AmeriQue is 14x18...)? I measured a turkey we got recently (about 16 pounds) and it was about 17" long (including the drumsticks, half of which I could presumably hack off) and 12" wide or so. I really would not want to bother to cut the turkey in half: though I do cook the turkeys for Thanksgiving, uncooked turkeys are awfully messy to me and great salmonella incubators. I would not presume to cook a huge turkey in it (the Thanksgiving one for 20-30 can be done at the BBQ store), but it would be very nice to be able to regularly cook 12-15 pound turkeys for the family.

Digital/probes: I know the AmeriQue has a digital timer that can keep it in a hold mode and then a meat probe. But you can only stick the probe in one piece of meat, and it can only go in hold mode at the best time for one kind of meat. So to me it seems that you can only smoke one type of meat at once. Is that right? Bummer, would be nice to have 2-3 kinds of smoked meats on Thanksgiving day. How well does it work to smoke, refrigerate for a few days (sealed up however is needed), then microwave or otherwise reheat the day of serving? And with a Smokette series (or any not as fancy as the AmeriQue), how well does it work to start it smoking before work and come home from work and be reasonably sure you will have meat for dinner?

Shipment vs. in-store: I read that, while its customer service is outstanding, sometimes CookShack does not seem to pack things well enough (or the shipping gorillas do the unreasonable), and things end up loose or dinged in ways that require customer service. That would be a big hassle for me, not only because I am way over-busy. Also, I am not a handyman, so I actually might not notice that anything is amiss for a long, long time. So I am wondering if it is better to buy from a store. A new Cabelas is opening up a 2 hour drive away (Post Falls, Idaho) November 9, and I was thinking of taking my son there in its first week open. Might one shipped in quantity to a store be less dinged up? Even if I saw one there that seemed as solid from another manufacturer, I very likely would not buy it, because I would not know much or anything about the company.

Accessories: Any must-have accessories (I will get a storage cart and probably a cover)? In case it matters, I will be doing a lot of fishing on the lake (landlocked Chinook salmon, northern pike, largemouth bass).

Cold smoking: anyone used the cold smoking baffle? Does it work well? Is it as reasonbly idiot proof as normal smoking seems to be (no doubt with some modest learning curve for normal smoking)?

Those are my major questions, probably the rest don't matter as far as a go/no-go decision are concerned (actually only a few are go/no-go, but I thought of the others).

Thanks HUGELY in advance for any assistance here.
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I live in Connecticut, have owned 009 Smokette for 3 years and smoke with it year round. I don't notice any difference in cook times summer vs. winter and it can hit below 0º digits here in winter. All Cookshacks are very well insulated and barely get warm on the outside surfaces.
I regularly smoke 12-14 lb. turkeys in my 009 with outstanding results. Keep in mind that poultry accepts smoke very well and start with 1 oz. of wood and adjust upward if not smoky enough for your taste.
Cook times are going to vary as no two pieces of meat are the same. That said, if I want to do a pork butt for dinner, I always start smoking the night before. Ribs take between 4 and 6 hours depending whether they are loin backs or spares If you read the forums you can get average times for whatever interests you to smoke. I have a Maverick digital remote thermo probe. It has two probes and I can monitor two different pieces of meat with it. I rarely cook two different kinds of meat in the smoker since they will require different cook times, necessitating opening the door to remove the one that finishes first. Opening the door during smoking adds something like a half hour to the cook time each time you open the door.
I would wait till Cabela's opens to purchase. My smoker arrived undamaged but it has been a concern for some here. Cabela's prices are quite good and you can take a good look before you buy to get an idea of the actual size of the smoker you are contemplating buying.
I have the storage cart and the long cover that covers both and the digital probe as I mentioned. I keep my wood, tongs, BBQ gloves, aluminum foil and what not in the storage cart. I would probably order the stainless steel racks as the chrome plating tends to wear off no matter how carefully you clean the racks.
I can't help you with cold smoking as I have never tried it but some are likely to chime in with their personal results.
Hope this helps with your decision. The cookshack was the best investment I have ever made and get raves from friends who eat what I smoke.
I live in northern MI and have used my 055 extensively in the cold weathe we have. (pics available on request. Smiler )

As for the cold baffle, I have used it to smoke cheese and bacon. It works very well. I put the baffle in with a pan of ice on top of it. Turn the unit on for 25 mins or when the top part reaches about 90 degrees, whichever comes first. And then turn it if and let it sit for about an hour. Turns out delicious cheese. The bacon is uncooked bacon and it really makes it smokey.
Welcome to the forum! I live across the state from you, smoking in the snow, rain and northeaster winds isn't a problem. There's 800-1000 degree's worth of insulation in the shell of the 008 and weather conditions are a non-issue. Your setup sounds just like mine with the roof overhang, you just need to protect the thermostat from moisture .
I've cooked 12-14lb. turkeys with no trouble, be sure to check out SmokinOkie's holiday brine recipe in the forum.
You'll want the cover, stainless steel racks (at some point) and a digital thermometer. Living where you do, apple wood shouldn't be hard to come by and is great for smoking poultry. Good luck, you'll get lots of advice on your other questions.
Thanks mucho, CT-Q and others! Hey, Brian, I used to play football and wrestle against Ferndale in high school (Monroe) in the 70s!
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Originally posted by CT-Q:
I would wait till Cabela's opens to purchase. My smoker arrived undamaged but it has been a concern for some here. Cabela's prices are quite good and you can take a good look before you buy to get an idea of the actual size of the smoker you are contemplating buying.
I have never been to a Cabelas store before. While Cabelas online does carry cookshacks, do their stores tend to carry less, the same, or more models (either overall or if anyone knows for smokers in particular)? Do you think there is much chance that they will sell out the first day or two? (In case it matters, the store will be 125,000 sqft (somewhat smaller for a Cabelas store, I gather) and a link is here from last Sunday's paper.)

I guess I could try to contact the store ahead of time and verify that, but I don't know how much luck I would have to see if they carry cookshacks. Also, I really would not buy one from another vendor: I have learned a lot about cookshacks, including the neutral comparison of the China-built SmokeTex or whatnot plus hearing from this forum of all the insulation etc. And I think my budget for now limits getting a much larger one. (OK, anyone with an AmeriQue, how big of a turkey have you smoked in your 14x18 racks? Who knows, maybe I get lucky and my wife thinks this is a super great idea.)
Well you don't hear about the normal shipments, only the goofs. There is ZERO issue with ordering from CS direct. IF the shipper screws it up, it gets fixed. We know it doesn't go out of the factory that way, so someone had to drop it. CS will always make sure it arrives and works perfectly. So don't let that even be an issue
As far as shipping goes, I order mine from cabelas and when it arrived the door was dented. It seems like the latch was never closed and I guess it slammed into the door during shipping. I called to see if I could get a replacement but they were all out so they credited me $50 back to my credit card. So I got a new 008 with a small dent in the door for $350, I can live with that..

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