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Sorry guys I thought we were comparing fresh herbs with "fresh" dried herbs, not stale ones. Confused

Geez, I can put a twist on anything. I mean what if your dog took a leak on your spices before you ground them. While it would be subtle, there may be a little "wang" to it....

I grind whole spices whenever I can, use fresh (not dried) herbs, when adding at the last moment or in vinaigrettes. When I purchase ground spices or dried herbs, I buy the most reputable brands and store them properly.

Heck, we agree with you that fresh is "better", that was not the question, it just doesn't make an oz of difference in a 12 hour smoke. Ribs and Chicken are a different matter, but again, that wasn't the question... Now you see how senseless wars are started... Roll Eyes Razzer

When it comes to Q, I will trust Smokin'
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I understand what you are talking about Double.... Whole cloves, ground in a spice grinder will certainly have a more pungent taste... If you say it makes a difference on a 12 hour smoke, then I have to believe you because I have not tested it...
BUT ground cloves in your rub whether you grind it or buy it ground really shouldn't make a huge difference, especially for the small amount you are probably using.

I am not trying to be difficult and I leave room for learning something new everyday. that is why I read this website and others; to increase my knowledge... I ain't there yet...

Thanks so much for your input and persistence.... But don't let your dog whiz on your cloves.... Big Grin
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..If you say it makes a difference on a 12 hour smoke, then I have to believe you because I have not tested it...BUT ground cloves in your rub whether you grind it or buy it ground really shouldn't make a huge difference, especially for the small amount you are probably using.


CG, It does make a difference. A large difference for a relatively small amount of cloves. And, by golly, in a 5+/- cup rub, going from a half tsp to 2 tsp of ground cloves would overpower the rub.

Someone asked earlier in a joking way, where do we buy my cloves fresh. We don't. We buy them ground. Stick a couple of tsp of ground cloves in your next 5 cup rub and cook the meat for 12 hours. Betcha you are not going to eat that meat.

As a caterer I'll bet money you've forgotten more about cooking than I'll ever learn, and I do respect your judgment. All I have to offer is some silly practical experience of building rubs and cooking lots of Que.

Thus, it's not due to persistance that I continue to blab, it's because of many bad experiences with this stuff. Trust me, CG, I've ruined enough rubs and meat that I should have learned something by now.

Double Lazy Smiler
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CG, It do make a difference. A large difference for a relatively small amount of cloves. And, by golly, in a 5+/- cup rub, going from a half tsp to 2 tsp would overpower the rub.

Someone asked earlier in a joking way, where do we buy my cloves fresh. We don't. We buy them ground. Stick a couple of tsp of ground cloves in your next 5 cup rub and cook the meat for 12 hours. Betcha you are not going to eat that meat.


I don't understand what you are talking about. I thought YOU ground your whole cloves... And what do you mean about 2 tsps. I don't think anyone was questioning your quanities of cloves...

Hey, my big grill was in St Louis last weekend. A buddy of mine did a ministry called "feed the masses" and he borrowed my big smoker rotisserie.... I noticed u are in St Louis, Double...

Carl

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