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I recently had two separate issues in my FEC100 and am looking for some input and ideas as to why this may have happened.

1. I ran a load of pork butts the other day only to follow the butt cook with some boneless/skinless chicken thighs (12lbs). Butts cooked up fine, but when I ran the chicken I got a fire in the pit. I was running the pit at 375 for the chix and noticed about 30 mins into the cook that there was an awful black/grey smoke pouring out the exhaust. As I approached the pit I could see small flames coming out the bottom. When I went to shut it off, it turned off by itself (assuming it was the limit switch). Unfortunately, it ended up melting off most of the seal, and I had to get another.

Things that I noted from this cook;
*It rained like h3ll during the butt cook. I didn't realize until after the fire that it rained soo much that the drip pan was almost completely full with rain water and had grease floating on top.
*There were charred marks on the side of the drip pan and the path that the grease follows down to the drip pan was glowing orange.
*Even though the limit switch kicked off the pit, the internal thermometer was not ever reading anywhere near 450+. In fact it wasn't even reading 375, so I would say that it's safe to assume that it was still feeding pellets.


Second round;
2. After replacing the seal, I ran another load of chicken thighs (same amount/same brand). I only cooked these at 325 and after about 35 mins went out to sauce them. When I opened the pit I noticed that the bottom seal was charred again! No fire this time, but I dropped the temp immediately down to 225 just to be sure. It should be noted that this cook was NOT preceded by a butt cook, and the pit had clean foil down.
*Pit thermometer temp never registered above the 325-335 range during this cook. But it was still hot enough inside the pit to melt the seal closest to the fire pot.


Couple of things to note with my FEC100; It's a ramp model, with the Traeger controller. I worked with tech support after I started having temp control issues; new internal thermometer. However, because of design changes to the 100, the new thermometer does not have a cover that extends over it inside of the pit. Leaving it exposed to whatever product is cooking above it.

I'm curious if anyone else has had to replace the thermometer with an older unit and now has the same sort of exposed configuration. As consistently great as the Cookshack support is, it seems that I may have stumped them on this one. Bill and I have spent some time on calls in the past, and he has been nothing short of great. But it's just my luck to have something that no one can seem to figure out.
I've yet to try this same cook with something on the rack above the thermometer covering it. But the couple of people that I've spoke to, really don't think that this is the problem?

Any input or just flat out guesses would be greatly appreciated. I'm going to run a cook this weekend, but it won't be to the scale of the last two chicken cooks (2lbs VS 12lbs). And I would love to have some more ideas prior to my next catering event only to find a charred seal and/or another fire in the pit.

Thanks in advance... a still very pleased FEC100 owner!
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hmm not sure i cook butts and thighs at 225 so never have a problem with fires. i cook my thighs at 225 for 4 hours and depending on the butts usually 12 hourish just depending.

is your grease runoff ok? have you seen how the chicken grease is flowing as in does it go to the drip pan or some dripping to bottom where fire is.

sorry not a pro pro and never had the firs preoblem so not sure
1. After cooking a load of butts or briskets, we always change the foil in the bottom of the FEC and on the heat shield. If you line the grease trough that the heat shield drains into, I would also change it before cooking a load of chicken at a higher temp. Trust me when I say that we know. Don't tempt fate, change the foil.

2. I can't say why the bottom seal turned black after replacing other than to surmise that all seals must refit themselves in the smoker after being replaced. It may be that the bottom just did a quicker job of it. The bottom seal is especially black on mine because it gets covered with grease and ask from the cooking process, not because I have had a fire.

Keep in mind that on this situation, it does not matter which generation FEC you have.
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Originally posted by N2Que:

is your grease runoff ok? have you seen how the chicken grease is flowing as in does it go to the drip pan or some dripping to bottom where fire is.



I actually leveled out the pit for the second cooking session, because I thought exactly the same thing. But there wasn't any sign of grease or flame in the bottom after the second cooking session that I didl
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Originally posted by RibDog:

2. I can't say why the bottom seal turned black after replacing other than to surmise that all seals must refit themselves in the smoker after being replaced.

Keep in mind that on this situation, it does not matter which generation FEC you have.


John, I should have been more specific when talking about the seal damage. It's actually charred white and totally burnt up. It actually falls apart when touched.

And I would agree that the generation pit shouldn't make a difference except that I've got an older pit with a newer type of thermometer in it. I know this because when they sent the new therm I had to call and get clarification as to why it was different and how it was supposed to fit back in the pit. Basically it's somewhat of a retro-fit. (see the attached photo).

Thanks again for the feedback. And I'll definitely take your advice to not follow up a high temp cook after a slow and low butt/brisket cook.

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2k's.

Sorry to here about the fire. I too think it is fromthe left over grease from the butts. At the lower temps. I feel the grease is a little slower to move on down all the trays and shutes to the pan.

And then to crank it up to 375. Thats alot of of heat and it would start to super heat all the excess grease remaining in the smoker. Then the chicken fat starting to render out.

I like to do my chicken at 225, then up to 250, then up to 290 to finish it off.

I did 8 butts today, in two smokers, and then did 50 thighs in one. The thighs took about 2 1/2 hours.

Good luck

RandyE
2Ks,

I have an older FE that is a pre-ramp model with a Traeger controller in addition to an IQ4 FEC. When I replace the therm in mine, I went through the same problem. When I went to CS, I was sent the longer therm also. Since I did not want tp bend the longer therm to fit along the wall. To resolve it, I went directly to Traeger and ordered the therm from them. They had the shorter therm and that is what I installed. It works for me. Even though it sits under the therm shield as you show in your picture, it still gets some grease and carbon on it. And I wipe it off usually before each cook.

I think I still have one of the shorter therms at home. If you find that Traeger does not have the shorter therm anymore, contact me. But I think you will find that they do.

I can't answer your question on the seals based on your additional information.

John
Call CS and talk to them about it.

When I received the longer probe, they sent me a shield that takes the probe and puts it along the wall. That's was 3 years ago or so.

But you have some different issues.

The grease caught fire for a reason. It got too close to a hot fire. Just physics. Don't know if it ignited via the drain under the firepot (say a spark flew out a couple of times) or down by the drain.

I'm not so worried about changing the foil each time, but I clean the grease trough each time and even push a paper towel down through the tube. Built up grease happens fast with chicken and if it's not a free drain, it will build up and might ignite.

I'd just work to eliminate the variables one at a time (like you're doing) and see if it clears up.

Russ
All excellent information and ideas guys. Thank you!

John that's great to hear. I will definately get w/Traeger about a replacement thermometer ASAP!

Thanks again for everyone's input. I'll let you know how tomorrow's cook goes. 1-14lb briskett and a dozen thighs to follow. We've got our only comp for the year next weekend. One last run for some final tweeking.

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