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I'm looking to see if anyone else has run across this.

I typically cook 4 bone-in butts,around 28 lbs. total each cook.

The last three cooks,I have used frozen butts [which I have done many times over the years}instead of fresh.

Some were Smithfield,some Hormel.

Butts are forgiving,so I cook several ways-depending on what I am trying to accomplish.

One cook was 200� till plateau,then bump to 250�.

Another was 225� all the way through,and the third was 250� all the way through.

I usually go to 195�-205� and don't check till near the end to avoid door opening on my CS.

If on a regular pit,I would open and check it by 180�.

All three times the temp. hung longer around 186�-188� than experience told me they should and I patiently waited until the low 190�'s.

Each time the butts took around 2 hrs./lb.

When I pulled them out, the butts had collapsed slightly,were a little looser on the bone than I usually like.

Each time in looking back,I would have pulled by 188�.

I sprayed with apple juice,foiled and coolered from 3/4 to 2 hrs.,depending.

The butts all pulled normally,felt and looked like usual.

The problem is that they all eat a little dry.

I Polder one on every rack,since I'm not opening doors,and calibrated all three thermometers.

I also ran the CS empty for several hrs. and it was right on the money.

I know the solution to the problem is to open the pit,check the meat,and its done when its done.

My question is the finishing at lower temps. and being slightly overdone then.

Thanks for any input.
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Well, caballeros, you know this better than I! Freezing crushes certain cells. Crunch. So, it cannot ever be the same as fresh.

Example? Snapper! No way a frozen snapper can compare to the one you caught an hour ago and are broiling now.

Fact of life.

Why? The freezing process. Makes for good mastadons (you can eat 'em) but not so good BBQ.

IMHO.

Cool
I guess I'm thinking that the only advantage of this tumbled meat we are getting is it might behave better after freezing,but I don't know.

It seems in the past,if I bought a case of butts and froze some,they might be a little harder to get tender and less consistent-but they still finished fine at higher internal temps.
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Originally posted by Tom:
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I usually go to 195�-205� and don't check till near the end to avoid door opening on my CS. If on a regular pit,I would open and check it by 180�.

All three times the temp. hung longer around 186�-188� than experience told me they should and I patiently waited until the low 190�'s.

Each time the butts took around 2 hrs./lb.

When I pulled them out, the butts had collapsed slightly,were a little looser on the bone than I usually like.

Each time in looking back,I would have pulled by 188�.

I sprayed with apple juice,foiled and coolered from 3/4 to 2 hrs.,depending.

The butts all pulled normally,felt and looked like usual. The problem is that they all eat a little dry. My question is the finishing at lower temps. and being slightly overdone then.

Thanks for any input.[/qb]


Couple of thoughts:

Looser on the bone means to me that they were overcooked (could be from holding too long, after a higher finish temp) You might want to pull them a little sooner if you're going to have long hold times.

You said dry. Hmm....you added juice, but if they were overcooked, they'd be mushy and would absorb the juice.

I know a lot of people seem to be averse to opening the door but I do it all the time. Not during the normal smoke time, but as it gets to the end. Personally, this isn't an oven that I can repeat everything.

My experience, and my opinion... Open it up, check them out. Yes, you'll have to add time...so what? Add time and have a better end result.

Just my opinion Cool
Thanks,Smokin' and all for the input so far.

I don't want to sound like they were terrible,just that three cooks in a row had produced similar results-all unusual from past cooks.

After a couple of adjustments,I'd still have given it a 9,8 &8 if I scored it in the tent.

I do open the door some,but usually when experience suggests.

I'll get some fresh cryopacs for the next cook and see if things return to normal.
We used to pull butts at 185 to 188� for slicing and 205� for pulled, now we taken them off at 195� internal. I am finding that a butt taken over 200� internal is not as moist as those at 195�.
I have started injecting also, it has improved the final product greatly.
Also have made up a vinegar sauce that has a slight sweetness to it that seems to bring of a clean pork flavor.
Jim

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