You know Stogie & Big Daddy, if we can figure out a way to do this that everyone understands...we'll be the Saints of BBQ.
My thoughts go along with you Stogie.
Being a judge:
a
fall-off-the-bone rib is actually overcooked.
For me:
The perfect rib is on that is
tug-off-the-bone one that you have to gently pull and it comes off cleanly.
Think of it this way -- ever tried to cut some that are falling off the bone, they fall apart or shred as you try to slice them.
Tug-off-the-bone cut easily, retain their shape and give a great looking rib and doesn't fall apart until they're in your mouth.
The term overcooked is from my BBQ Judge rule experiences, they say that fall of the bone is overcooked.
I've never found a reliable temp or a reliable way to determine "tenderness" since there is so much variation in a "perfect" rib. It is based on the cooking method, the doneness of the meat the moisture in the meat, etc, etc.
I agree with Stogie. Look for the meat to shrink (although I can't say if it's 1" or 2" cause it's hard to know where the meat started and I don't always carry a rule out to the smoker
I like the toothpick test.
My preferred method and it goes back to my "it's done when it's done" I actually handle the meat (I've got some deep frying gloves that are insulated) and I flex it like you Stogie. By the amount of bend (on not bending) I can tell if it's done. A little practice, and KEEP GOOD NOTES, and you'll make this method work for you.
Now, who's next with the ideas?
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Smokin OkieIt's done when it's doneCookshack BBQ Guide Page[This message has been edited by SmokinOkie (edited March 07, 2001).]