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So,

10 years ago, most everyone couldn't spell brining (around the time I wrote Brining 101)

How many of you have heard or tried about salting? I've done it before, and done it with fish (the salt dome method).

I'm seeing more and more articles and posts about it, so I thought I'd throw it out for comment.

Here is the "how to" from Cooks Illustrated, it's for oven roasting, but you could easily make it for smoking.

I might just have to do an experiment on the family (shhh, don't tell them)

quote:


Serves 14 to 16. Published November 1, 2006.

This recipe was developed and tested using Diamond Crystal Kosher Salt. If you have Morton's Kosher Salt, which is denser than Diamond Crystal, use only 6 3/4 teaspoons of salt in the cavity, 3 3/4 teaspoons of salt per each half of the breast, and 1 teaspoon of salt per leg. Table salt is too fine and not recommended for this recipe. If you are roasting a kosher or self-basting turkey (such as a frozen Butterball), do not salt it; it already contains a good amount of sodium.

Ingredients
1 turkey (15 to 18 pounds), giblets and neck reserved for gravy, if making
7 tablespoons kosher salt (see note above)
1 bag ice cubes (5 pound)
4 tablespoons unsalted butter , melted

Instructions
1. Following illustration 1 below, carefully separate turkey skin from meat on breast, legs, thighs, and back; avoid breaking skin. Following illustrations 2 through 4, rub 3 tablespoons salt evenly inside cavity of turkey, 1 1/2 tablespoons salt under skin of each breast half, and 1 1/2 teaspoons salt under skin of each leg. Wrap turkey tightly with plastic wrap; refrigerate 24 to 48 hours.

2. Remove turkey from refrigerator. Following illustrations 5 and 6, rinse off excess salt between meat and skin and in cavity, then pat dry inside and out with paper towels. Add ice to two 1-gallon zipper-lock bags until each is half full. Place bags in large roasting pan and lay turkey breast side down on top of ice. Add ice to two 1-quart zipper-lock bags until each is one-third full; place one bag ice in cavity of turkey and other bag in neck cavity. (Make sure that ice touches breast only, not thighs or legs; see photo below.) Keep turkey on ice for 1 hour (roasting pan should remain on counter).

3. Meanwhile, adjust oven rack to lowest position and heat oven to 425 degrees. Line large V-rack with heavy-duty foil and use paring knife or skewer to poke 20 to 30 holes in foil.

4. Remove turkey from ice and pat dry with paper towels (discard ice). Tuck tips of drumsticks into skin at tail to secure and tuck wingtips behind back. Brush turkey breast with 2 tablespoons butter. Set prepared V-rack in roasting pan; set turkey breast side down on V-rack; brush back and legs with remaining 2 tablespoons butter. Roast for 1 hour.

5. Remove roasting pan with turkey from oven (close oven door to retain oven heat); reduce oven temperature to 325 degrees. Using clean potholders or kitchen towels, rotate turkey breast side up; continue to roast until thickest part of breast registers 160 degrees and thickest part of thigh registers 170 to 175 degrees on instant-read thermometer, 1 1/2 to 2 hours longer. Transfer turkey to carving board; let rest 30 minutes. Carve and serve.
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Hey, Smoklahoma and co.! It's been a while. Smoky? Do you remember the thread I did a couple of years back and I was telling people that instead of "Brining" we "Cure" ours with a rub? Welp, 'tis the same thing ~ almost Wink

Skip the salt and start experimenting with sugars. Maple sugar comes to mind. "Sugar" the Turkey ALL over and let it set for 24 hours. Then put whatever the rest of your dry rub is on and let set for another 12-18 hours. Proceed to smoke as per ususal. you HAVE to get the sugar ALL over the bird and UNDER the skin. We still use the Honeysuckle white breasts - easier to work with.

This works VERY well with pork, Tenderloins especially. Just cure them with the sugar for 24 hours then add your normal rub(minus sugar, or not). I don't let it sit with the normal rub like we do the turkey. It keeps it from getting hamish.

If you let you meats set with just whatever sugar on them for 24 hours, then add your rub, you will get a MUCH better result. i.e., you get more mileage out of the sugar.

There are many sugars and some are expensive. Maple sugar is 20-40 dollars/pound. If you mix them in your rubs like always the flavors get lost and will taste just like any other sugar. Curing with these nicer sugars helps get the full effect.

As always.... I hope this helps!

Zeb
Yeah Zeb I remember,

However Sugaring isn't the same your way as Dry brining.

Brining works because of the salt's ability to pull out the moisture of the bird and then it tends to soak back end.

You method would be the same as trying to bring a bird in sugar water.

It may work, but it's not brining.

If it works then absolutely keep doing it, I just wanted to point out that what I posted about dry brining and sugaring, just aren't the same.
Remember the salt part occurs AFTER the sugaring. So, it is still dry brining...just after the sugar cure. Originally we have always done them at the same time, which served as a cure and a brine. It still does, but doing the sugar first has a better result.

Essentially you are doing the condensed version of making ham, but with Turkey. That is the reason that we do not do the salt part for the pork after the sugar cure.

Just clarifying a little.

Zeb

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