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Can you brine a turkey if it is “solution added” turkey? Does a turkey get “mushy” if brined more than 24 hours? Is 12 hours long enough to brine a turkey?

This Thanksgiving I fixed 2 - 12 pound turkeys and a 7.47 lb turkey breast. In an attempt to cater to everyone’s tastes I brined all 3 turkeys with different brines for different lengths of time and cooked each one differently. To give somewhat of an equal treatment to the 3 turkeys after the brining process they were all washed, dried with paper towels, stuffed with a quartered apple, a quartered onion and two stalks of celery prior to being trussed up and returned to the refrigerator to set for 12 hours

The breast and the turkey on the left had variations of the holiday apple honey brine. The purple bird was brined using the cranberry pomegranate brine.



The cranberry pomegranate turkey was brined 48 hours and came out purple. The holiday apple honey brined turkey had a few extra spices and was brined 24 hours. The holiday apple honey brined breast was brined 12 hours.
During the 12 hour period after the brining the two apple honey brined birds leached a considerable amount more onto the plate than the cranberry pomegranate bird.



I put the holiday apple honey brined turkey breast in a bag in a roaster at 300 for 2 1/2 hours (the presentation was horrible)
I smoked the holiday apple honey brined turkey for 4 1/2 hours at 250 with 6 ounces of apple wood chunks.



I smoked the cranberry pomegranate brined turkey for 3 hours at 275 with 4 ounces of cherry wood chunks.



The cranberry pomegranate turkey sat in the cooler for 2 hours 15 minutes before it was unwrapped. I let it sit for 15 minutes prior to carving it. The turkey was firm, moist and a little tart from the cranberry, but very tasty. The cherry smoke was strong, but not overpowering.

The holiday apple honey brined turkey sat in the cooler for 1 hour before it was unwrapped. I let it sit for 15 minutes prior to carving it. The turkey was firm, moist and had a mild sweet apple taste and smoke flavor.

The holiday apple honey brined breast sat 15 minutes prior to carving it. The turkey was firm and moist with a slightly sweet apple taste.

What did I learn?
1. A 15% “solution” added turkey breast can pull up as much flavor as an 8% “solution” added turkey.
2. The firmness of the turkey meat was not affected by the length of the brine.
3. Less brine is needed if you brine the turkey in a bag.
4. A 2 ½ gallon Hefty Jumbo Slider bag is much easier to use than a large oven bag and requires less brine (about half)
5. Cherry smoke was a bit stronger than I expected
6. I served 20 people and had roughly the same amount of turkey leftover from each recipe, and I had no complaints from anyone.

It's all Good! Cool
 
 
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I like cherry on turkeys also,BUT a guy must use a cheese cloth,IMO, otherwise you get dark turkey,oh well!

I think you made it easy to see the brining process with that cranberry pomegranate bird and a person must decide for himself/herself on the appropriate time to brine,thats what "experience teaches us young cooks". I tend to like more flavor then maybe other folks do and I don't get the mushiness either.

Nice job!!!
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I like cherry on turkeys also,BUT a guy must use a cheese cloth,IMO, otherwise you get dark turkey,oh well!


Cal, good point, and I see I neglected to say I put a butter soaked cheese cloth on the smoking birds after one hour. (mostly because I read Smokin's posts)
Thanks for keeping me honest
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I've never seen them that dark using cheescloth. Did they come out as dark as the photo looks?

The real point of CC is to help prevent the bird from getting dark (and keep it moist). What do you think of the final birds and the CC method?


Yes, they were that dark. I started with 4 oz of wood chunks on both. At 2 hours I added 2 oz more apple, but shied away from adding more cherry. The cheese cloth was well soaked when I put them on, but I did not spread any more butter on the birds. I was going to, but I got distracted.

Both birds were very good. The only change I would make would be to back the cherry off by an oz. I was surprised at how strong it was. Good but a tad strong
For me, the CC is more for look than moisture. I've changed my thinking over the years.

I put it on when the skin looks like I want. Earlier is fine, later is not. I also remove it later to crisp up the skin, but at that point it doesn't darken up too much.

But 4 oz is a lOT in these smokers.

If you don't add more butter the CC might stick. Beware.
The purpose of doing 3 birds 3 different ways was to experiment and maybe weed out some fiction from fact, and I believe I learned more from the experiment than I thought I would

As with any recipe there are many opinions none of them are really wrong, but that doesn’t mean they’re right either.

I read quite a bit from several sources before I started. It got to where there was quite a bit of contradiction going on. Must brine at least 18 hours Do not brine over 24 hours. Should wash after brine. Don’t wash after brining. Add wood chunks every hour to keep the smoke going. Meat will not pick up additional smoke after the first hour. It goes on and on, you get the idea.

Normally I would only use 2-3 oz of fruit wood on poultry. I’m not a fan of opening the smoker before it’s done, although I believe the CC was worth it.

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