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Hi Gang,

I am new to the forum, but have had my CS for about a year. I have had great success with everything that I have tried, thanks in large part to this forum. My next adventure is going to be a ham. I need some help with the following. What is the difference between a fesh ham and a green ham? Should I brine or not? Should I cold smoke? What is the proper way to cold smoke? I really don't want to start with a store bought ham. I want to prepare my own from scratch. I would like to have this mastered by the time the holiday season rolls around. With the success of my other smokes you can guess who gets to bring the bird and the ham for Thanksgiving. Any and all help would be great.
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Hello TripleLQ,
and welcome....I have always smoked hams that were bought at the store....most of the time you will see this refered to as "Double Smoking" a ham. As for fresh and green Im not sure.
However, If you are new to posting on the forum you may not know about the Search feature.
It is at the top of the page and it lets you search each forum and also lets you type the subject you want to search..
If you haven't used that feature yet , I urge you to . It is full of all the info that has been posted on your subject..
Also, Smokin Okie is preparing a "Ham 101" and he has mentioned in the past that he was wanting to get it finished in time for the Holidays. He's a busy guy but if it gets finished then you probrably wouldn't have to look no farther than that.
Good Luck

cooking in arkansas
TripleLQ,
Well, that is one thing that I have had great luck with in my opinion and other s who have had them.
Fresh Ham is just that, a ham that has not been smoked or cured in anyway.
I have used fresh ham , and fresh shouldrers to make ham in my smokette.
I use the buckboard bacon cure from Hi Mountain. I cure for about 14 days, depending on the size of the ham, also after the first couple days I also pour some maple syrup over the the meat.
After curing, I rinse in cold water for 2-3 hours to remove excess cure and assure that the salt level is not over done. Than I hot smoke in smoker , I use corn cobs as this is my favorite way and love the flavor of the old Vermont way.
They come out super.
You might want to do a search on the forum for buck board bacon, as this was the area that I posted on about my initial results.
Hope this helps, and feel free is ask any further questions.
Also have done boneless pork loins this way for some great smoked pork chops.


peartree51
Peartree 51,

I have followed the buckboard bacon thread and have done a couple, without corn cobs, and they turned out great. It makes sense to use the approach for a ham. What was the temp of the CS, and to what internal temp did you take the ham? When you use corn cobs are they dry? I have a whole corn field right in front of my house. Can you use cobs from field corn or do you use cobs from sweet corn? Thanks for your help.
TrileLQ,
Check out the forum archives, Best of .

Homemade Bacon with photos, September 2003,
This is where I posted on the esults of HAms.
Corn Cobs are corn cobs, I use sweet corn from summer eating, but hey what ever. I use mine dry. or close to it.
It msy be as good with hickory, but being a Native Vermonter, like corn cobs.
Feel free to ask if more help is needed.
I belive I stared out at 225 on the cookshack, and went to about 138-140, than let things cool down, wrap ham and store in fridge, then backed a couple days later till temp of 155. Came out great.


peartree51
Yes, I'm working on a Ham 101.

The major part of it is for prepping store bought hams, as most people don't want to do the whole thing and can't really get the fresh "ham" from the hog.

Do you have a source for fresh pork.

I'll have some info in there, but it won't even been in draft for a week or so, but it will sure be great to have you read it to see if it answers some questions.

Check out:
Food Saftey Info on Hams

Here's some more from the BBQ FAQ:
quote:
Wyndell Ferguson--

A fresh ham is smoked about the same as a pork shoulder. I like to trim the skin and fat off (not all, but leave about 1/4" fat on it) leaving about 3" of skin along the shank portion. Put a dry rub on the night before and wrap in plastic wrap. Let it sit in the refrigerator overnight. This will help draw the moisture from the top layer and turn the rub into a gel. Before putting it on the smoker I put a light coat of vegetable oil over the ham, then I put on more rub.

Start the smoking at a lower temperature than usual, around 225F, and a little heavier smoke. After 1 to 1 1/2 hours I baste with an oil-based mop, and again at 3 hours. After that I mop every hour with a apple juice and vinegar mop. After the second oil-based mop, I move the temperature of the smoker up to about 250-275F until the ham is fall-apart tender (1 1/2 hours per pound or an internal temperature of 185-190F.) Let the meat sit for about 30 minutes wrapped in foil. Pull the ham apart and put some sauce on it. I like my Mustard Vinegar sauce. I add just enough sauce to keep the meat moist when I reheat it. When I serve it, there isn't much evidence of the sauce, and I serve the ham with sauce on the side. To reheat, I put the meat in a Ziploc bag that is closed about 2/3-3/4 of the way, add some Worcestershire sauce, a sprinkle of rub and maybe a splash of cider vinegar. I reheat in the microwave in 1 minute increments, mixing the meat thoroughly after each minute until it's hot. This helps trap moisture, keeps the meat from drying out and heats the meat quickly!



I'll have more soon,

Smokin'

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