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OK guys I was recommend to post something in the pork butt forum.

Hello everyone. After a month of talking the wife into allowing me to buy a smoker after I just spending 500 dollars on a gas grill was not easy. I am new to grilling and have never owned or smoked anything. The final reason I taked her into a smoke is we both love BBQ but the two times I tried to cook baby back ribs on the grill they were nasty. Ended up feeding them to the dog both times. Not even sure he was happy with them. So, I purchased my smoker online today. I have read on the sights where you have to fine tune your cooking rubs, etc. At this point I am at a do or die if the brisket or ribs do not come out right.

I was going to cook a brisket or ribs the first time but have been advised to try a pork butt first. I was told it is easier and would also help season my smoker. But can someone who has tried different things and fined tuned it give me there step by step best way they found so my first cook on the smoker does not get me shot by a mad wife?
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Follow Smokin's 101
Make a decent rub, spread some mustard on the butt, then your rub, then pack on some brown sugar on top, then load 3 oz wood in the wodbox, then plop the butt on the middle shelf, set to 225 and cook until a quick read thermometer slips easily thru the meat effortlessly in multiple spots - and you get a temp reading of 195 in many spots. Once you get that "like melted butter" resistance in many parts of the meat you'll have it done. Figure roughly 1.5 hours a pound but rely on that quick read temp !!!!!

It's fun to do so try to enjoy yourself,
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Originally posted by Davegeezer:
Welcome Tom.

My butts have been averaging 9 to 11 lbs. As BigMikeinNJ says, you've got to get to that 195 degrees internal temp. I have the 066 and getting there usually takes 12 or more hours depending upon the weight of the butt. Opening and closing the door every couple of hours to check the temp will prolong the cooking time so resist the urge for the first few hours. I use the the probe that came with the 066 to monitor the temp. And you can do the same with a quality temp probe designed to be left in the oven. Maverick makes one. Just thread the probe and cable through the smoke hole and into the butt and monitor the temp on the gauge. I also use an instant read to check the internal temp when the probe reads 195, just to be sure by sticking it in a couple of areas. Enjoy your smoker and the food it produces.
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Originally posted by mark hog:
i would like to try hog roast for the party.
should i do it myself or take help of caterer.


What is the extent of your smoking experiences?

Do you have a hog smoker?

Do you own a pump injector and Sawzall? (needed for prep/processing)

If you have the equipment and know your way around pork shoulders/butts etc., I would say do some research (find feature).

My gut instinct suggests you hire a caterer and observe the whole process before going out on your own. Good luck.
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Originally posted by mark hog:
i would like to try hog roast for the party.
should i do it myself or take help of caterer.


Welcome to the forum.

Start a new thread so we can keep the two subject separate and we'll try to help you out. It happens sometimes. People click reply instead of new thread.
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Originally posted by Bob Barrows:
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Originally posted by BigMikeinNJ:
Follow Smokin's 101
Make a decent rub, spread some mustard on the butt, then your rub, then pack on some brown sugar on top ...
But only if your rub doesn't already contain brown sugar, right?


You have a problem with using brown sugar in a rub and as a coating ??
Hey guys I got my smoker today and was lucky enough to be off work today. I did as the book said "2 oz of wood, pan of water, 275 for 4 hours. Just finished. As I pulled the wood tray out I noticed the wood was not ashy it was just one chunck on black wood, I used hickory. I thought I read the wood should turn to ash..my smoker is the 025
Tom

Congrats on the new smoker, you should start your own thread separate from this one, keep this one on topic that way.

Lok up near the top of the page, you will see a set of drop down menu options. One of them is NEW, CLICK and HOLD and you will see the DISCUSSION option, use that - and use it from the section that is appropriate. In your case that would be COOKSHACK SMOKER OWNERS forum.

YOU CAN check to see if the heating element is touching the bottom of the wood box JUST A BIT, it should be - you can gently pull up on it (do it unplugged please). Longer cooking times ensure a good thorough burn. If your wood was slightly damp that would impede the burn process. I keep all my wood inside out of moist air/rain.
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Originally posted by BigMikeinNJ:
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Originally posted by Bob Barrows:
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Originally posted by BigMikeinNJ:
Follow Smokin's 101
Make a decent rub, spread some mustard on the butt, then your rub, then pack on some brown sugar on top ...
But only if your rub doesn't already contain brown sugar, right?


You have a problem with using brown sugar in a rub and as a coating ??
I guess so. My basic rub already contains a good proportion of brown sugar, and turbinado as well. I would think adding more would be overkill. But I could be wrong of course. Even though I'm happy with the way my butts turn out, I will give your recommendation a try.
I am thinking about doing the vinager style. I have not seen where they say anything about using a rub for a eastern carolina style. I have read where they require moping it during the cooking. However, in the same breath I have read tons stating not to open the smoker till the temp reaches 200 degrees. So, I am a little lost here.

I hope the wood burns this time. I am in Colorado so its pretty dry here.
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Originally posted by Tom65:
I am thinking about doing the vinager style. I have not seen where they say anything about using a rub for a eastern carolina style. I have read where they require moping it during the cooking. However, in the same breath I have read tons stating not to open the smoker till the temp reaches 200 degrees. So, I am a little lost here.
I hope the wood burns this time. I am in
Colorado so its pretty dry here.


Always rub my butts when I make pulled pork. and always use an Eastern NC vinegar sauce Them seem to compliment each other. Not lots of sugar in the rub though

John
Two points: first I do put some brown sugar and a taste of white sugar in my rub as a binder - but perhaps not as much as you do, so I don't think it hurts to apply the extra brown sugar on top. Sort of gives a nice bark to my pulled pork.

2nd point: dry wood. When I got my SM008 I bought some wood from a guy on eBay - cherry, red oak, hickory and maple. It's cut in 1x3 inch logs, each weighs about 1.3 oz. And it's kiln dried. I also bought some apple wood from another supplier which is parts of limbs with the majority of the bark cut off. Also kiln dried.

So when I upgraded to my SM150 the fella I got it from had a good bit of hickory he threw in. He got it at Home Depot in a big bag for less than $20.00. BUT you know what some of it is a little damp and doesn't burn all the way on ribs. Use it for a pork butt or brisket where you have a long and slow cook time and it's ash when you check the wood box. Remember that the heating element should JUST touch the bottom of the wood box.

So long story short, think about your wood source. I hope it's not trees from your Back 40. I've met folks that used wood from their property and couldn't figure out why their food had this nasty dark coating on it (creosote, from the excess moisture in the wood).
Hey Guys thanks for the info. Could one of you send me a rub break down for the butt when I am going to use the vinager sauce? I looked at the 101 but he did not mention a rub. I am going to use his sauce.

Reference to my wood I am going to use the hickory that came with my smoker from cookshack.

Also I see different people saying pull it at 190 up to 205. So, I guess I will aim for 200.

Cant wait till Sunday Smiler
I make a "cowboy rub" and I use paprika and brown sugar as my "binder" and to that I add onion powder, garlic powder, gruond cumin, ground coriander, ground red pepper flake, fresh ground black pepper, hershey's cocoa, and really finely ground coffee (I make espresso so the coffee is a powder in consistency). Mix that all together and apply as your rub. Drop me your email in a pm and I'll send you something I was gifted...

Mike
OK, put the pork butt on at 9:00am. It is now 7:30pm and still going. Temp is holding strong at 223 to 226. Temp is at 165 using probe I opened one time around 4:00pm to splash on some vinager sauce. I bought two pork weighting a total of 15.56 pounsd so I am guessing it weights around 7 1/2 pounds

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Tom,

I rubbed one of the two 7.5'ers I got at Sams on Saturday evening - put it in my SM150 at 8pm at 225 and used a hunk of red oak and a hunk of cherry wood. I got up around 6am and it was probing at 175. I mopped it while I had the door open and then let it run, mopping every hour. It wasn't until 10:00am that I had it at 195 - doggone gorgeous and tasty. It took 14 hours.

But learn something here, you go by internal temp of the meat and how it probes ALL OVER. Like Smokin' always says "it's done when it's done".

I also learned from Smokin' to hand pull. I do sort of slice my butt with a knife and then hand break that down, doing it by hand you catch the bits of fat and 86 them. I got a nice bark and some real tender white. I smoked a deep cast iron skillet of baked beans on the lower shelf for 4 hours. Man are they good... Hope the stuff I sent you earlier gets you thinking about what you want and how to get it.
Yeah Tom,

I learned the hard way. I'm an early riser, usually up around 05:30 to get my wife off to work, and used to try to start pork butts then. Too frustrating.

Now I get them prepped about 6pm and into my smoker about 9pm (kinda late for me to be up) and let the smoker do it's thing. Doggone in the morning I get my coffee and pack the wife's lunch and then check on the pork butt. Usually by then it's at 175 or beyond. When it's done I hold it in foil and pull a bit later. Smokin' said at his place they pull the pork at service time, otherwise it gets dry. Lots to learn here.

It's really worth the wait taking it to 195.

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