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This might seem obvious, but based on some emails I've gotten over the past week, it's not obvious to many folks.

When cooking on a Cookshack smoker, keep the process simple until you know what you're doing. When you know what you're doing, you'll keep it simple without being told.

The pumps, injections, basting solutions, and other procedures intended to add or maintain moisture are largely un-necessary on a CS. They cook plenty moist already. These are not offset smokers or big barrel stick burners. They usually don't need all the tricks one of those units might require to produce a moist product.

While you might some general ideas from a stick burner site or a Big Green Egg site, those guys take many steps to overcome the limitations of their unit. There is no need to follow their lead.

As with learning any process, don't do anything unless you're sure what the outcome will be, and you're certain you need to add another step. I would suggest that if you're slathering on mustard and pumping your butt full of beer, vinegar, snake venom, and/or some other solution and you're just on your third cook, then you don't know what you're doing and you need to step away from the smoker and take a deep breath.

Cook one the easy way. Taste your results. Then add things a little at a time if needed until you get the product you want, but don't just start throwing every spice in your kitchen and saucing your butt with every liquid you can think of without some plan. That is not the path to enlightenment. Beer and margaritas will assist you on your journey, and you'll have more time to heed their wisdom if you don't waste time with foolish tricks.

Also, stop getting your recipes from the Alcoa site and the Kraft site. Foil and Kraft sauce have no place in the world of smoked BBQ. Smiler
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Couldn't agree more. The first butt I made I was worried it would dry out, so I took it out too early. Was moist, but could have been more tender. Second butt, rubbed it down, threw it in the CS, had a few cocktails and went to bed. Next day when the probe went off at 202, took it out and FTC'ed it for a few hours til dinner.

That was some good eatin!!!

Just set it and forget it! LOVE that Cookshack!
Thanks Todd.

We try to keep the concept of" put some amount of something in the firebox and be sure it actually lights".

Darn few can pick one from another.

Put something,somewhere,on some rack.

The Cookshack will cope.

If you remember some seasoning,OK.

If not,OK.

Stick a probe in it,and cook at least to the recommended temp.

If you REALLY have to open the door,add 30 mins,or one beer to the time.

At worst,the CS will produce an edible meal.

Many cooks and cookers NEVER really accomplish that.

Yes,all serious new folks want to do it well,and that is a good thing.

To new cooks, one butt,brisket,or slab seems expensive-and it is.

Todd says there is no secret.

Don't overthink it-let the CS do what it is designed to do.

Smokin' says only change one thing at a time,and write it down.

I've been taught that"if you don't learn to cook it right,all the rest is a waste of time"

Now these thoughts will fade away,with next month's new owners-but the truth of them will always be there for each new group.

It is up to this new group,to pass this on to those that follow on the forum.

Just my $0.02
Well. I guess when I smoke that "choice cut" full packer brisket this weekend, I'll pass on the "seven layers of flavoring", Bubba's special sweet and spicey sauce, the flavorful injection, Uncle Larry's magic secret rub, and North Forrest exotic wood chunks. I'll just salt, pepper, garlic or maybe I'll use the Texas Brisket rub I bought. Dang. Don't want to over think this.

Let's see. Throw the rub on. Throw it in the Cookshack. Therm and wait. Drink beer as a time filler while the Cookshack does its thing. Well hell, I think I can do that. Only thing that would be easier would be if the folks at Cookshack came over this weekend and threw the brisket in the smoker for me. Wonder if they're busy. I'd be more than happy to share with them.
It's kind of like golfing aids. If all those tools that promised to "take strokes off your game" actually worked, everybody would be shooting in the 60's every round. Nothing beats having the basics down.

Meat in a CS, add wood, turn on, come back when it beeps. Eat. That formula will yield better BBQ pork/brisket than 90% of the BBQ restaurants out there. Then, after you have a baseline, you can add a little rub and magic voodoo sauce, and then when you've exhausted yourself, you can go back to the meat in the smoker thing and relax. Smiler
Actualy we've "mentioned" this one quite a bit, so a new post addressing it is fine.

Realize, we get a fairly high turnover, so the new posters/lurkers may not see it.

For me, the challenge are you Type "A" types out there that feel the need to reinvent BBQ.

BBQ really is supposed to be simple and fun. Are there better ways of doing it? Sure.

But, how can you reinvent a car if you've never driven one?

Learn to cook the basics as we say, then go out and find all the fun stuff.

Here's my thought about Internet BBQ comments.

Quote me now, include my stuff if you want to.

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Being an experienced Q'er, I'd say more than 90% of the posts on the internet do more harm than good if you want to learn to Q. Find the forums, find the posters that you trust and go with them.

Think of us as a Pitmaster you can sit down and talk to. Ask me anything, but when I give you the answer, don't try to redesign it.


We already have a sticky "lessons for new users" so I'd suggest any improvements be posted there, so we don't have multiple places to look, besides sometimes they don't even look there.

And for you newbies/lurkers reading this. This forum has been here 10 years for a reason, a few of us actually know our @#$% Big Grin
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Agree or disagree? Foiling hot meats fresh from the CS will lessen (steam/melt) the smokey bark you just spent hours creating?


Foiling & putting in a cooler has never effected the bark on butts & brisket to the point of disappointment. Always plenty to go around.

But, this is the reason I have never foiled ribs. I want a chewy bark & steaming them in foil, IMO, defeats the purpose.

Just my $0.02! Wink
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Originally posted by redoakNC:
Agree or disagree? Foiling hot meats fresh from the CS will lessen (steam/melt) the smokey bark you just spent hours creating?


Diagree, somewhat.

It will "soften" the bark.

It will prevent the bark from getting "more" smoke from the point you foil it.

Smoke continues to attach to the meat as long as there is smoke in the cabinet. Cover the meat and it's stops
To tag onto "focus on the basics,and don't get lost in the secrets".

Cookshack offers an FEC/comp/cooking/general knowledge class a couple times a year,and Smokin' and I attended.

Now ,Smokin' actually teaches some of the course,as well.

An executive told us of preparing for a meeting at the plant,and wanting to serve great briskets from a traditional CS160.

He is a fine cook and applied all the tricks he could.

He completely loaded up the big cooker,turned it on and left for the night.

As he returned early the next morning,with great expectations,he found a river of liquid and grease flowing out from under the factory door.

One basic he skipped was "place drip pan,under drain ". Red Face
A trick I use is to keep my permanent drip pan (foiled) in the smoker at all times. If one uses disposable, put the clean replacement in the smoker when you throw the used one out. When you go to smoke something, you're forced to move the drip pan. At that time you can put it where it belongs under the smoker. I know this has saved me on more than one occasion, afterall, I've been known to forget to place wood in the smoke box.

Another trick one our forum members uses is to bring his meat out to the smoker in his disposable drip pan. Bingo. Also saves on washing a platter.
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Ok ill pipe in on keep is simple when i first started the forum i read for hours on types of rubs, making rubs, how long to let the rub sit on before i put it in the smoker. The real truth is now i only use cookshack rubs. Rub it and let it sit long enough to get everthing together-through it in- pull it at temp-or feel sometimes. I might FTC but i might not depends on who im cooking for some like the softer bark some like the harder bark. I can also honestly say everyone i have served to has said it is the best BBQ they have ever had. With that being said dont run out thinking you will win your first comp. You might but all those that said its the best they ever ate might have ment the best they have ever eat for FREE. Smiler

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